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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 21st, 2013, 10:52 pm

Nice post, good information.

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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 22nd, 2013, 12:39 am

hmmm... ill need something thats good at both Damage and Healing. any ideas?
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Re: Tips for Beginners
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July 22nd, 2013, 6:44 am

This game has very focused classes. While you can end up being good at every class, you really just use 1 at a time. In a 4 person dungeon, the successful combination is always a tank, a healer, and 2 damage dealers. The healer just stays back and casts cure nonstop on the tank, or throws a cure at a damage dealer if they end up drawing aggro. Damage dealers just make sure they target what the tank has targeted and kill. There roles are determined before you start, and you stick with your role throughout.

Also, unlike WKC, you will have a unique level for every class. You may play a class to say level 20, but when you decide to take on another class, you start right back at level 1 in that class. In the end, you don't reach level 50 just once, it's a total of something like 15 times? At any given time you're only working on 1 class. The advantage of working multiple classes is that you can mix some abilities. For example, as a damage dealer you could pick up another class's attack boost ability that your class doesn't have.
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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 22nd, 2013, 2:52 pm

Completely agree Haggar, this game is going to be about people learning to play their specific class really well and then working in a team with others. So knowledge of your own class and team working skills will be the core abilities.

There will be a reckoning when it comes to teamwork in parties. As a tank I can already see this coming, in a busy dungeon when the damage dealers split their attacks and don't attack what I am hitting, two things happen - unless it's an easy dungeon. 1) I can't maintain hate and 2) the healer can't keep up with healing the DDs and the tank and someone dies. Also when the tank is unable to hold the hate, they will burn their MP too quickly trying to grab the aggro If any additional mobs spawn and go after the healer - which leads to a dead healer.

I don't like being bossy, but at times inside I am screaming at the DDs to stop splitting their attacks and coordinate on my target....lol...I'm sure that from their point of view all the other classes have similar frustrations, we all just need to learn to work together within the abilities of our classes.

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Re: Tips for Beginners
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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 22nd, 2013, 3:29 pm

Main reason I started early using the Signs whenever playing MRD. For better or worse, the tank has to be the party leader, as far as battles go. I'm not saying they're more important, but when a tank marks enemies with signs, I'd say accept those targets as fact even if you yourself think another enemy is more problematic.

Enmity in FF14 seems simple to hold on mobs once it's established, but it gets very hard to establish it in the first place when 2 DD's are attacking individual targets at full force. And this is coming from a MRD tank, who has an easier time holding several mobs than GLA.

And yes, it'll be a lot of learning how to play our own classes and how to play them with others. An example that comes to mind is, if you're playing with pugilists, don't ever start kiting an enemy. Nothing more irritating to PGL than having to chase enemies since our attacks have 0 range (barring later moves and MNK moves). And of course the heavy focus on flank/back attacks, can't do that either when the enemy keeps moving.
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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 22nd, 2013, 10:11 pm

I was already planning to make a topic about that, I just finished it : viewtopic.php?f=21&t=232
It's basic stuff again, but I think your discussion would be better moved there. Unless you want to make a more advanced topic about tanking in FF.
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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 23rd, 2013, 12:33 pm

someone please tell me theres Greatswords in FF14.
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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 23rd, 2013, 12:44 pm

Well, there are two handed weapons so I am certain that if there are not already greatswords, there will be.

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Re: Tips for Beginners
July 23rd, 2013, 1:34 pm

I guess you mean something like this :
http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/575569/569/7 ... 202950.jpg

No, there's none in the game, that one can only be used for 2 or 3 seconds.
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July 23rd, 2013, 3:53 pm

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